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[184.155.95.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n24sm11318300yhj.13.2012.01.21.07.42.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:42:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20250.33882.89017.12372@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:24:42 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55892 Archived-At: > We can define a trivial unit > > (add-to-list 'math-additional-units '(one "1" "One")) > > So every plain, dimensionless number in Calc can be converted to > ones. "7" becomes "7 one", This will automatically be done when "exact output units" option is chosen. > Calc should interpret dimensionless numbers such as "7" equivalent > to "7 one" without the need to explicitly make this trivial > conversion in either direction. ... > - If Calc finds a dimensionless number "7" on the stack, for unit > conversions it gets interpreted as "7 one" This would break current convert-units behavior, where a dimensionless number can be interpreted by the user as any unit. This is why when the user asks to convert a plain number, Calc asks for the old units. Calc was written that way on purpose, and is a feature of Calc's units handling.