From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:28:23 -0600 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87mx9a6z6w.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ty3kkbpt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ty3il5ia.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327602612 16995 80.91.229.12 (26 Jan 2012 18:30:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 19:30:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [140.186.70.17] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU5G-0005Rv-1p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:30:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40381 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU52-0007vV-Tw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60179 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU4v-0007um-6y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU4m-0001HX-Es for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.43] (port=40435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU4m-0001Gd-9Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU5C-0003OX-7E; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9244 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 9244-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9244.132760258513003 (code B ref 9244); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2012 18:29:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU4r-0003Nc-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:45 -0500 Original-Received: from cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com ([208.78.214.25]:55879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqU4m-0003NI-5P for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:29:40 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAHKaIU/AqF0N/2dsb2JhbABCr1GBcgEBBXkQCw0UDwwKDwEESQ4FshmNX4k+EAEIAQYEAwMEIgOCZR0OgQUgAgELAQUJGoMaBIg/klmMdw Original-Received: from unknown (HELO chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com) ([192.168.93.13]) by cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2012 18:30:19 +0000 Original-Received: from internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.29) by chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:28:53 -0600 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com ([10.2.27.110]) by internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:28:53 -0600 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <87ty3il5ia.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:48:13 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2012 18:28:53.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B338E80:01CCDC58] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56049 Archived-At: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:48:13 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> Maybe errored-offline / errored-denied groups could get 2 special faces >> in the group buffer? That would give a visual indication without >> necessarily interrupting the user. >> >> I think strike-through would be a perfect visual emphasis for this. LI> One of the reasons for having the Agent at all is that you're supposed LI> to be able to read the groups if the server is down. (Or, as in the LI> example, you typed the wrong password.) LI> So I think what Gnus does here is what it's supposed to, but I agree LI> with Ted's suggestion of marking the groups that are from servers that LI> Gnus thinks are down specially. LI> Strike-through is kinda intrusive, though. Something a bit more subtle LI> would be nice... or perhaps just a mark at the beginning of the line, LI> like what we do with non-Agented groups from servers that are down. As long as it's a face that can be customized, and which inherits from the normal group face... I don't think a separate indicator is a good idea. Ted