bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found)

bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found)

[Uwe Siart]

In Gnus I have added my nnimap server via

,----
| (nnimap "TUM"
|         (nnimap-address "mail.mytum.de")
|         (nnimap-server-port 993)
|         (nnimap-stream ssl))
`----

When I try to open it I get an error saying that gnutls-cli can not be
found. It always worked fine with Emacs 23.3.


In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2011-12-01 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/lib'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: DEU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  iswitchb-mode: t
  electric-pair-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> b u g <tab> <tab> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> C-g 
C-h i <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <return> m b u g s <tab> 
<tab> <return> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <return> 
<next> <prior> <next> n n C-x 5 0 M-x b u g <tab> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> g n 
u <tab> <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> C-g C-h i n n u 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <down> <down> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <return> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> n <next> n <next> <prior> <next> n <next> 
C-x k <return> q <return> y M-x r e <tab> p o <tab> 
<tab> r t <tab> <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Quit
Info-extract-pointer: Node has no Next [2 times]
byte-code: End of buffer [30 times]
Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n)  y
Saving c:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/siart/.newsrc.eld...
Saving file c:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/siart/.newsrc.eld...
Wrote c:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/siart/.newsrc.eld
Saving c:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/siart/.newsrc.eld...done
Making completion list... [3 times]
goto-history-element: End of history; no default available

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow rfc1345 quail emacsbug time-stamp tabify info help-mode view
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iswitchb electric time delsel cus-start cus-load autoinsert tex-site
auto-loads dired-sort-map server x-dict easymenu htmlize help-fns
boxquote rect cl paren edmacro kmacro time-date tooltip ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win
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romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer button
faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote
make-network-process multi-tty emacs)

-- 
Prof. Dr.-Ing. Uwe Siart
Lehrstuhl für Hochfrequenztechnik
Technische Universität München
Arcisstr. 21, 80333 München, Germany
E-Mail: uwe.siart@tum.de
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bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found)

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Uwe Siart <uwe.siart@tum.de> writes:

> In Gnus I have added my nnimap server via
>
> ,----
> | (nnimap "TUM"
> |         (nnimap-address "mail.mytum.de")
> |         (nnimap-server-port 993)
> |         (nnimap-stream ssl))
> `----
>
> When I try to open it I get an error saying that gnutls-cli can not be
> found. It always worked fine with Emacs 23.3.

Do you have gnutls-cli installed, then?  Alternatively you can compile
your Emacs 24 with libgnutls support.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/

bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found)

[Uwe Siart]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Uwe Siart <uwe.siart@tum.de> writes:
>
>> In Gnus I have added my nnimap server via
>>
>> ,----
>> | (nnimap "TUM"
>> |         (nnimap-address "mail.mytum.de")
>> |         (nnimap-server-port 993)
>> |         (nnimap-stream ssl))
>> `----
>>
>> When I try to open it I get an error saying that gnutls-cli can not be
>> found. It always worked fine with Emacs 23.3.
>
> Do you have gnutls-cli installed, then?  Alternatively you can compile
> your Emacs 24 with libgnutls support.

Now I Got GnuTLS for Windows, put it on PATH and it works like a charm.
Just now I'm writing this reply from Gnus connected to my IMAP server
via SSL :-))

Thanks a lot for pointing me to that and sorry for my stupidness. I
wasn't aware that additional software is necessary because it hasn't
been necessary for Emacs 23.3 (precompiled for Windows). More even I
wasn't aware that GnuTLS is available for Windows.

Now everything is fine. Problem solved. Thanks a lot.

-- 
Uwe

bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found)

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Uwe Siart <uwe.siart@tum.de> writes:

> Thanks a lot for pointing me to that and sorry for my stupidness. I
> wasn't aware that additional software is necessary because it hasn't
> been necessary for Emacs 23.3 (precompiled for Windows). More even I
> wasn't aware that GnuTLS is available for Windows.

Hopefully Emacs 24 will be distributed (for Windows) with the GnuTLS
libraries included, so that this will just work out of the box.
Otherwise I think there will be many similar bug reports.  :-)

-- 
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  http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no  *  Sent from my Rome

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries (was: bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found))

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:04:25 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LI> Uwe Siart <uwe.siart@tum.de> writes:
>> Thanks a lot for pointing me to that and sorry for my stupidness. I
>> wasn't aware that additional software is necessary because it hasn't
>> been necessary for Emacs 23.3 (precompiled for Windows). More even I
>> wasn't aware that GnuTLS is available for Windows.

LI> Hopefully Emacs 24 will be distributed (for Windows) with the GnuTLS
LI> libraries included, so that this will just work out of the box.
LI> Otherwise I think there will be many similar bug reports.  :-)

Christoph has been doing that, I think, so we can rely on his binaries.

Christoph, can you add a GnuTLS build step to your Emacs build for
Windows, so the latest GnuTLS version can be used on that platform?  We
had a long conversation about this and at least for now it seems to be
the best approach (and we agreed it would not be a task for the core
Emacs developers).  If you prefer, I can set up a BuildBot to produce
the GnuTLS DLLs for you.

Ted

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries (was: bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found))

[Juanma Barranquero]

2012/1/26 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:

> Christoph has been doing that, I think, so we can rely on his binaries.
>
> Christoph, can you add a GnuTLS build step to your Emacs build for
> Windows, so the latest GnuTLS version can be used on that platform?  We
> had a long conversation about this and at least for now it seems to be
> the best approach (and we agreed it would not be a task for the core
> Emacs developers).  If you prefer, I can set up a BuildBot to produce
> the GnuTLS DLLs for you.

Christoph's binaries are built against gnutls-3.0.9, but they do not
include the GnuTLS DLLs.

Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
the snapshots) releases.

    Juanma

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:

> Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
> whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
> the snapshots) releases.

Does the new semi-official build include the GnuTLS DLLs?  It seems to
include a lot of the other libraries, but it doesn't mention GnuTLS...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Drew Adams]

Why is this being crossposted to 3 different Emacs mailing lists. Please keep it only for the bug list.

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:05:12 +0100
> Cc: 10612@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org
> 
> Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
> > whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
> > the snapshots) releases.
> 
> Does the new semi-official build include the GnuTLS DLLs?  It seems to
> include a lot of the other libraries, but it doesn't mention GnuTLS...

It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.

(We never distributed Windows DLLs with Emacs, because that would
require us to host their sources, their dependencies, and the sources
of their dependencies on ftp.gnu.org, which IIRC raises all kinds of
questions and issues with their licenses.)

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
> tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
> installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.

Yeah, but there are other less official builds (i.e., not official at
all), like those linked from here:

http://www.emacswiki.org/CategoryWThirtyTwo

I couldn't tell whether any of those included GnuTLS...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
>> tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
>> installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.
>
> Yeah, but there are other less official builds (i.e., not official at
> all), like those linked from here:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/CategoryWThirtyTwo
>
> I couldn't tell whether any of those included GnuTLS...

They do:

http://emacsbinw64.sourceforge.net/

    100% unmodified source code from git master and release version.
    Native 64-Bit binary for MS-Windows.
    Compiled with optimization.
    With JPEG, GIF, PNG, TIFF, SVG, XML2, and GnuTLS support.

So I'm closing this wishlist bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no