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Jackson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 15:31:08 -0300 Message-ID: <87mvo5brpv.fsf@moondust.awandering> References: <87h9efsig5.fsf@gmail.com> <871t5imycz.fsf@gmail.com> <83eg9hkhct.fsf@gnu.org> <877ff9dc26.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462386767 30132 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 18:32:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:32:47 +0000 (UTC) To: 23432@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 20:32:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1b5-0003Mu-DV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 20:32:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1b1-0000jq-Fg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1as-0000Xg-0w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1ag-0004Rc-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1ae-0004QS-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1ab-0005ls-Ip for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:32:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 18:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23432 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23432-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23432.146238667822133 (code B ref 23432); Wed, 04 May 2016 18:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 18:31:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1Zu-0005kv-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io0-f174.google.com ([209.85.223.174]:34696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1Zs-0005kg-Ao for 23432@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 190so63081921iow.1 for <23432@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 May 2016 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=1QHdPQZSp3zNCuxTjDuHxv0tL910bv0JAGdAZQj/FC0=; b=AmEZHMJooojHPCLnCzIXTFvGVdFU0tWgbcofvz20sCnPaf5tGb7pZFaRc7h0AiDmwn Iz2/bo2yoLTaoHuAMFKuciBpZOdFNjp0GlJuVK9ETCg55H0jL5OTHglnrCH8BaZuAmVp 6Ge21DfWfZwrbH0wE67UTucPnM9Zc2uk83N6S8vaamUcmnaJLXDDCDVOebzj4KKYiAgo Dbl3vx4FDAc+SudTEVzqzT4mWJ+DX9PZwxDfAXUzGoFHBN0HvRxCHudY8ldnKXLgfT74 KB8xYset5xyWrZjfnQ9SxxtDvPqstWNKeji0AJall2MmbxrkgvBOOkBMtm1ojTDzIm8H By7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=1QHdPQZSp3zNCuxTjDuHxv0tL910bv0JAGdAZQj/FC0=; b=hJIHhX2BtPvlso7+1xU2g+d+RGr03OBewlqxbyh47iKeyKh52+t6MEGaf0Fc5qcUBj gNx1BU1yLqjS6Iawg/ZrLQIm36I+9j1aafMhJ1nNAJe/mPh2fFv4vdnCAOZ2aGzWvSDD rYfsUjduteLFBvn8+Z9CPVFYEhoAO8qxkw3BoVXXc2idfJuQNsZxuIWLXA8k7rDH1iNQ 1NkpOnsWRgdIQcF+we4Ik91PAGmQorhvnnp0pJy6exTC9VhvD1MteMBibMrDrgudh3GW 2jbc337fJSWSrXSeVFhQnCiEPf03DuOM4tHaZzYI6WuQqU3Hkf2v0ocelBW7iZUnxVDu uYEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVRHptc32NlHI/jOsUZsh4jHAbEfA17O5Nh2wjoKtrKDwbXaVad29z+I9f0zk+1Uw== X-Received: by 10.107.166.140 with SMTP id p134mr12695434ioe.121.1462386670837; Wed, 04 May 2016 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from moondust.nodomain.none ([142.227.16.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 70sm1975868ioz.16.2016.05.04.11.31.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 May 2016 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 04 May 2016 13:26:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117784 Archived-At: At 13:26 -0400 on Wednesday 2016-05-04, Glenn Morris wrote: > > I added a sentence to NEWS. Thanks Glenn. However, I don't believe this is enough. This is an extremely egregious flaw. Inserting an inappropriate string like "i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" in Emacs users' email messages, without asking their permission and without informing them, is unacceptable. If the "fix" is to document the danger in NEWS, then it should be in the sections on Message and Gnus. No one is going to think to look under `system-name'. After all, even the person who made this change to `system-name' clearly didn't make the connection that it would effect users's Message-IDs; there's no reason to expect a casual email user to make that connection. > (Should name.localdomain even have counted as valid for a message-id in > the first place? The point is to be unique.) Well, that's just the suffix of the Message-ID. The full thing would be, for example, something like 877ff9dc26.fsf@moondust.localhost. Clearly not unique like a GUID, but having a high probability of uniqueness. N.