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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: Philipp Stephani <phst@google.com>, 28691@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#28691: [PATCH] Add file name handler support for 'make-process' (Bug#28691)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:41:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muowzo3j.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkSYX1FA__JPQXg+ao1STyX4D0N9BT-vYvz92dukmcGUBQ@mail.gmail.com> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:08:30 +0100")

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:

Hi Philipp,

>> > this LGTM,
>>
>> Same here, but I still appreciate a clarification in the doc, that not
>> all file name handlers will support this function,
>
> That isn't the case:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Magic-File-Names.html
> states clearly "The handler function must handle all of the above
> operations, and possibly others to be added in the future."

Tramp does *handle* all operations. But it does not *support* all of
them. In case it is not possible to offer an implementation for
`start-file-process' (as example), Tramp uses `ignore' as implementation.

>> and they will return
>> nil in that case.
>
> That is also not the case. If there's no handler, setting
> :file-handler to t has no effect. That's the same as for
> start-file-process, which calls start-process if no handler is found.

Of course. I do not speak about this case. Tramp offers a handler, which
will also supports `make-network-process'. This handler is called
`tramp-file-name-handler', and you see it in
`file-name-handler-alist'. But this handler could decide, that for a
given connection method there's nothing to do.

Remember the example I have shown already:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(with-temp-buffer
  (let ((default-directory "/ssh::"))
    (start-file-process "foo" (current-buffer) "/bin/true")))
=> #<process foo>

(with-temp-buffer
  (let ((default-directory "/sftp::"))
    (start-file-process "foo" (current-buffer) "/bin/true")))
=> nil
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

"sftp" belongs to the connection methods implemented via GVFS, no
external processes are possible. See `tramp-gvfs-file-name-handler-alist',
many operations use `ignore' as their implementation. `make-network-process'
will get a similar entry.

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-23  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-03 17:13 bug#28691: 27.0.50; make-process has no file-name-handler Stefan Monnier
2017-10-03 17:50 ` Michael Albinus
2017-10-03 18:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-16 23:39 ` bug#28691: [PATCH] Add file name handler support for 'make-process' (Bug#28691) Philipp Stephani
2018-12-17 12:38   ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-17 17:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-17 19:07     ` Philipp Stephani
     [not found]     ` <CAArVCkSzt=pcVG9ZRpdT6oSi30ExcqBGAQ5J8b3x0+gkOo+d2w@mail.gmail.com>
2018-12-17 19:20       ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-17 19:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-17 20:47           ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-22  9:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22  9:31               ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-22 21:08                 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-23  7:41                   ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2018-12-23 10:08                     ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-23 10:26                       ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-23 15:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-23 16:36                           ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-23 16:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-22 22:26               ` Philipp Stephani
2018-12-17 19:33       ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-17 20:03       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <838t0odpk8.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-12-17 19:30       ` Michael Albinus
     [not found] ` <20181216233936.208568-1-phst@google.com>
2018-12-17 17:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <mailman.5866.1545079749.1284.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-12-18  1:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-18  7:56     ` Michael Albinus
2018-12-22 21:05     ` Philipp Stephani

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