From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20697: 25.0.50; Mention `M-x report-emacs-bug' on splash screen Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:38:32 -0700 Message-ID: <87mug2w65j.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <874l2az3r3.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="79089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 20697@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 23:39:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJx-000KRW-Rx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:39:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJw-0004WY-Ex for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60605) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJq-0004WE-Uj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJp-0002lN-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJp-0002lI-RN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJp-0006JU-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 21:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20697 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20697-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20697.156642352324232 (code B ref 20697); Wed, 21 Aug 2019 21:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20697) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2019 21:38:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJX-0006Im-1E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJU-0006Id-UM for 20697@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 17:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from 77.16.209.198.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.16.209.198] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i0YJQ-0006m9-1Q; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:38:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:02:50 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165528 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > There was also a suggestion by Drew in the original post to mention > the Help menu as well. Is that something we want to do? But then, > wouldn't we also want to suggest C-h C-h, C-h C-i, etc.? Hm... The "About" screen already has too much text, in my opinion -- and adding more will only discourage reading what's already there. Perhaps the "Absence of Warranty" and "Copying Conditions" could be merged into one line? > Maybe a better alternative would be to add the Emacs Manual at the > bottom, after the link to the guided tour? (And, but maybe that's > just me, to move all the help topics ("Emacs Tutorial", "Emacs Guided > Tour") to the top?) Yes, it is kinda odd that there's no links to the manual on that page. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no