From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32736: bug#34715: bug#32736: 26; Bind `C-x 5 2' to `clone-frame' by default Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:57:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87mtov73t7.fsf@gnus.org> References: <17bef02b-7dd4-4086-828f-59488a836ac1@default> <8735qofx6h.fsf@gnus.org> <83fsuoqx75.fsf@gnu.org> <87eea8e9u6.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl5cquu4.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6kwe7n9.fsf@gnus.org> <875yvke7kt.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgswcsdq.fsf@gnus.org> <835yvkqtc3.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93kcrbu.fsf@gnus.org> <834kb4qof0.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0jzbew7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnnzo1op.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsun8kyw.fsf@gnus.org> <83v93jo0dl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22142"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 34715@debbugs.gnu.org, 32736@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 02 10:58:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiY3-0005RL-Vr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:58:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46830 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiY2-0003jG-Qi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXq-0003iX-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXq-0005ug-80 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXq-00089x-49 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32736 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32736-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32736.163057305631315 (code B ref 32736); Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32736) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2021 08:57:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXQ-000890-K2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXO-00088l-S1; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:57:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QL7ak+LtvvXxDlh6E90K14B12X9RvbxGEGy6pXNZMoU=; b=q5GyWH0QRgElSmXThqBIQAzUnV 8xyQYPvk3fSsZ3Ze1q3nZjnc1osiDDdsURAI0O30+JDGZr2aJblCFF8gExqypZQabVcHdTMWQUBhp e2fl8YV3hqatHuAodly4j2H+UuBBuYN78fxwFlm46EEBJ5GIpx8Z4xpayvGUkhun+co8=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLiXE-0003oH-Sh; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:57:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83v93jo0dl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:19:34 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:213263 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > (Which btw means we now need to preload seq.el?) >> >> No, it's autoloaded. > > But frame.el is preloaded, so won't that get in the way during > bootstrap? It won't get loaded until the user uses the `C-x 5 c' command. >> > And the faces aren't copied, I think, they reference the same faces >> > the original frame had. >> >> Right -- I don't really know how the face/frame stuff actually works. >> If it was a very general problem, then surely we'd stumble across this >> whenever we make a new frame. But the bug seems to manifest only on >> terminal frames -- when we change the background mode. > > That's true, but it doesn't mean we don't have a deeper problem. True. I'll continue to debug this, but won't have time today, I think... If you want to have a look meanwhile, please go ahead. :-) It reproduces easily, and the bug seems to be caused by something called by `frame-set-background-mode', but that may or may not be correct (perhaps it's just doing something that triggers the real problem caused somewhere else). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no