From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:03:00 +0000 Message-ID: <87mstz1l0b.fsf@localhost> References: <83a5r5gdxk.fsf@gnu.org> <87frztc7iy.fsf@localhost> <867cl4kg4l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87cyuwdcb4.fsf@localhost> <868r5jse0m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r0jbbg2z.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: materus213@gmail.com, 67393@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 20:01:49 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rHTjR-000AKO-IZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:01:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHTiv-0002cY-00; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:01:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHTii-0002c9-0I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:01:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHTia-0000Vx-SC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHTig-0002mF-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67393 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 67393-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67393.17034444072581 (code B ref 67393); Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2023 19:00:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHThm-0000eG-Hk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:56759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHThg-0000QF-Gd for 67393@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:00:04 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD5CE240028 for <67393@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:59:48 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1703444388; bh=KE+pCQUyX8aYGd9uK0HEtbpU7al9jOacCvIZxUBCCmE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=cpiKruy/Cmk4ciCVPyMEVRHJIaxm7Qq5bY+cws9Jv9WW+Kov1X+ysSuD8qrQV4tev AGrQ7CvN3xtmLBBFbtMMntrVXaEQe86zNAO2ca5ZDNNmk/42lEczBGcOO4tWzswTXE QUFTWhD+7QaANrq59bCoIHliD6nYVc7acv0oJeUrQJ0d7JNoofSB4jkxLxQwtI/DfS KJPYG6VgcdoPN85YaoXgscJkqPqvhL2BxJsx8nhGUkfJhbuMCZBql8iEpv445Bs0Ii FaqxG1KR4ce3E0zNtkmyU1twpRcDKaIforfm8iZYBTmAj816sOjJ5Ux65FfkH3RbGt 0DQa6R4NpQGKA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Syr1v6xfkz9rxF; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:59:47 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83r0jbbg2z.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:276824 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> It would be nicer to prepend this error message to any last displayed >> message during these 5 seconds. > > We don't really know whether doing that will be effective. Given N > lines of messages in the echo-area, what are the chances that the user > will see all of them, or even the most important one(s)? AFAIU, the only difference is that `sit-for' will block Emacs, while the proposed multiline echo will not. Is absence of blocking what you are concerned about? As an alternative idea, important messages may have an option to be accumulated forever, until explicitly dismissed. Just like (notifications-notify :title "Very important message" :timeout 0) > IOW, we don't have any real experience with this kind of UI. We need > to collect such experience first, before we conclude that this could > be used as an alternative to sit-for. May we use the known experience with OS notifications? If not, do you have something specific in mind about collecting the experience? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at