From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 74879@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74879: 30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot be used for non-file buffers
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 19:38:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msgw94fz.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvikrlukf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2024 09:03:18 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Thank you for the recent addition of `trusted-content-p'. Is there a
>> possibility to use `trusted-content-p' in buffers which are not backed
>> by a file? I use Flymake in *scratch* or similar buffers and it seems
>> that this won't continue to work given that `trusted-content-p' needs a
>> `buffer-file-truename'.
>
> Good question.
> We don't really have a good answer yet, AFAIK, in large part because we
> don't have enough experience with it.
> Off the top of my head, here are some elements relevant to this
> discussion, in random order:
>
> - The current setup is a kind of "minimal" change for Emacs-30 because
> it's late in the pretest, so as much as possible we should separate
> the discussion into what's a simple enough solution for Emacs-30 and
> what we should use in the longer term.
Agree. As I suggested a simple trusted-buffer-function hook may be the
simplest solution, which is also not limiting and allows us to mark
various buffers as trusted.
> - You should be able to get fully-featured Flymake in *scratch*
> with (setq-local trusted-files :all).
> Maybe we should do that when we setup *scratch*?
> Which other non-file buffers would need that? The minibuffer?
Given that the trust applies to the given buffer, setting `(setq-local
trusted-files :all)' in this buffer feels odd as a recommended
mechanism. Even more so since the variable is marked as risky local.
> - Trust sucks, so we really should work on better solutions where we
> don't need to rely on trust, such as running code in `bwrap` or other
> kinds of sandboxes.
I agree. But what about interactive scenarios like auto completion?
There we may be limited to trust, even if we want sandboxing in other
scenarios. I think trust checking might be helpful in all scenarios
where there is a "low threshold" to invoking code execution or even
unintentionally.
> - I think we do want some kind of hook, with which we can have (for
> instance) `emacs-lisp-mode` tell Emacs to trust the user init file,
> the early-init file, the custom-file, and all the files in
> `load-path`.
You suggest a hook which is executed per buffer? This seems similar to
my proposal of a trusted-buffer-function hook.
Daniel
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-15 0:39 bug#74879: 30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot be used for non-file buffers Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 10:16 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 10:56 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 11:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 12:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 13:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-15 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 14:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-15 14:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-15 15:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 15:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-15 18:38 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
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