From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2058: 23.0.60; bewildering behavior when visit new file throw.pdf Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87ljsvzxeq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87tz7lt6n7.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: Tassilo Horn , 2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233129828 32353 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2009 08:03:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 09:04:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LS5Pv-0005Z6-38 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:04:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LS5Od-0006Ig-5i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LS5OZ-0006Ia-CY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LS5OW-0006GM-JB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44080 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LS5OW-0006GG-GV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:50009) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LS5OV-0004FV-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0S83TYi011545; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:03:30 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0S7t3Uq009202; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:55:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:55:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2058 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2058-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2058.12331287447912 (code B ref 2058); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:55:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2058) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Jan 2009 07:45:44 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.15]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0S7jaNh007901 for <2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:45:37 -0800 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BB37890041; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14596-07; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:33 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender vrfy tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (dhcp98.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.98]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B14789AE6B; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:33 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:58:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:03:33 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24670 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman writes: Hi Richard, > > I did C-x C-f throw.pdf, with no existing file throw.pdf. The ensuing > > messages and interaction were bewildering. > > Is that really a use-case? > > Sure. It is not very useful, but why give a misleading and inaccurate > error message? It would be better to do Now I switch to `fundamental-mode' for empty or non-existing PDF/DVI files and to `ps-mode' for empty or non-existing PS files. I think this is appropriate. Bye, Tassilo