From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14086: 24.3.50; `substitute-command-keys': inappropriate "(that binding is currently shadowed by another mode)" Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:40:05 -0800 Message-ID: <87lhxjbmxm.fsf@building.gnus.org> References: <0FF2F801815441C3B5385CE3202E16A0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392007328 5026 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 04:42:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14086@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 05:42:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCihD-0001T8-UG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:42:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCihD-0004ue-Di for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCih5-0004uZ-Ob for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCih0-0007rb-Pc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCih0-0007rN-MC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCih0-0004sx-EM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14086 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14086-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14086.139200729618742 (code B ref 14086); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14086) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:41:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCigZ-0004sD-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:41:36 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43885) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCigX-0004s3-9x for 14086@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:41:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCigI-00066B-Jh; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:41:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <0FF2F801815441C3B5385CE3202E16A0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:04:25 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCigI-00066B-Jh MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392612079.58018@9shnskMH86hStlsb6JEvgg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85186 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > But near the end of the listing (not at all near that entry), I see this > other entry for `M-r': > > M-r previous-matching-history-element > (that binding is currently shadowed by another mode) Yeah, kinda awkward way of putting it. What about just (binding currently shadowed) ? > That makes no sense, or is at least misleading. There is no special > "mode" that I am aware of that is involved here, for one thing. And I > don't see how the `previous-matching-history-element' binding is > "shadowed", whether by "another mode" or any other way. `M-r' is simply > bound to `icicle-roundup' in this keymap - it is not bound to > `previous-matching-history-element' in this map, AFAIK. > > Seems like a bug to me. At the very least it is unhelpful and > misleading for a user who sees this. (Not to mention the fact that this > extra info, if you think it serves a purpose, is far from the first > `M-r' entry, so a user will likely see one or the other but not both > together (unless the keymap has few keys in it). I think it sounds useful to list bindings that would normally be on the map unless something had redefined the key. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/