From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16266: 24.3; `load-theme' prevents immediate setting of themed variables Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 07:20:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf7w4x1l.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87d2kiahne.fsf@gmail.com> <8761qaaevr.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="925"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 16266@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alex Kost Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 30 07:22:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDtq-000Abi-Cb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 07:22:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDtp-0007cN-C5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:22:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49740) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDti-0007c6-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDth-0004Az-Py for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDth-0001G5-MB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:22:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 05:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16266 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 16266-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16266.16223520694761 (code B ref 16266); Sun, 30 May 2021 05:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16266) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2021 05:21:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDsq-0001Ej-Rb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDso-0001Du-Fa for 16266@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 01:21:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2Xa9wr2pGT3mzaurAXsAvghKbv394Ew2ITQPSc8dgHc=; b=njtHY/9oxS1Tm4QC4Wqh5aIqCA K/VkRyVBOtL3Pfsoc90t+WyoLMD+0z/bpiZlJVFspabs47hTekSbDJD450YXTPKu2E3mW6uWiFXnQ 9/Oxx+/+jeuN08YRrGQuHvxyh1dzSdbAKtW3JnONELC9aDN9Mqf71OEB3+1OgQrUL0YQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnDsc-0006ON-Tu; Sun, 30 May 2021 07:20:59 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Alva Noto and Ryuichi Sakamoto's _Two_: "Inosc" In-Reply-To: <8761qaaevr.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Kost's message of "Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:15:36 +0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207577 Archived-At: Alex Kost writes: > 2. M-x load-theme RET test-bug RET > > After that `test-var1' and `test-var2' are still void (because > `custom--inhibit-theme-enable' is set to T in `load-theme'). > > 3. Evaluate these 2 expressions: > > (defcustom test-var1 "red" "some doc") > (defvar test-var2 "red") > > `test-var1' is "blue" now and `test-var2' is "red". That's why NOW is > so necessary: a theme can set an undefined variable which will be > defined with `defvar' only using NOW arg. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at the time.) I'm not sure I understand this test case. The problem is that the variables defined by the are "overwritten" when you load something that is a defvar. This does seem somewhat surprising, yes, but I think that's how it's supposed to work? The problem here is that test-var2 is a defvar instead of a defcustom -- if that's the case, then themes don't work reliably, as you've found out. So I think this is basically working as intended. Does anybody have an opinion here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no