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Thu, 20 Apr 2023 16:50:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?="'s message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2023 15:25:00 +0100") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260342 Archived-At: (I haven't had the time to follow the thread in detail, so I might have missed some context) Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:56=E2=80=AFPM Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:39=E2=80=AFPM Dmitry Gutov = wrote: >> >> > The reasons for me to be less hopeful: >> > >> > - We seem to be unable to come to any agreement here. :-D >> > >> > Joao's approval for the above list would go a long way. >> >> First of all, thank you Dmitry for making such an extensive >> and detailed summary of the simualtion. It's really >> impressive. >> >> What you say about a fixed package-update obviating the need >> for eglot-update is totally true. In fact I proposed a fixed >> package-update much much earlier in this thread. If you >> manage to do that, then I'm more than happy to remove >> eglot-update. > > Whoops, sorry, made a thinko. package-update _doesn't_ really > obviate the need for eglot-update, because it won't be callable > in Emacs 26/27/28, and eglot-update will. > > ...unless package.el itself becomes a :core package and > self-updates through ELPA, which I think is being proposed > around here somewhere. Could happen in master (and leave > Emacs's 29 version untouched). BTW, everything that this would require has been done so this is not a far-off solution. > So for the moment eglot-update is my best out. > > Jo=C3=A3o