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Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:17:47 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83wn0j621b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 04 Jun 2023 11:54:08 +0300") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262925 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=91=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0= =BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 >> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:43:13 +1000 >> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, philipk@posteo.net, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> > I wonder how come this issue never came up until now, in all the time >> > since commit fb87d500, 9 months ago? What are you, =D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3= =D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9, do that >> > bumps into this issue, that other people don't do? Or does this >> > affect only very specific packages? >>=20 >> I moved my everyday working emacs instance to 29.0.91 and got almost 2% = completely broken >> packages. >> I rarely delete really old versions from my ~/.emacs.d/elpa. >> If your package-user-dir is cleaned more often, you may not notice that = your loaded packages have >> slightly different old versions. >> This can affect any package if it has few versions. > > So you are saying that other people mostly delete old versions from > ~/.emacs.d/elpa/, and that's why this problem was not reported until > now, is that right? If you use regular package-* functions, upgrading always deletes and old version when the new one is installed, so IIRC having two separate versions of a package installed has to be the result of some manual intervention. > What are our recommendations, if any, for cleaning up old versions of > ELPA packages? M-x package-autoremove should take care of them.