From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: list charset stuff needs buffer name other than *Help* Date: 23 Sep 2002 09:00:48 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87k7ldtt8f.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032788059 18452 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2002 13:34:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17tTLs-0004nD-00 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:34:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17tTLv-0000uY-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:34:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17tTL7-0000pa-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17tTL1-0000pO-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17tTL1-0000pG-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17tTKv-0004je-00 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:33:17 +0200 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17tTKu-0004jT-00 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:33:16 +0200 Original-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-47-221.hinet-ip.hinet.net Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032787996 18095 61.227.47.221 (23 Sep 2002 13:33:16 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:33:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:3550 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:3550 It is very bad for the user to have gone thru the trouble of going thru the help menus till he finally gets to seeing the table "Characters in the charset chinese-big5-1." and then have that all be wiped away when he executes the next help command. Therefore that character set stuff should be put in a different buffer than *Help*. Indeed, the buffer that starts with Use or C-c C-c: on a column title to sort by that title, on a charset name to list characters. should already have a different name than *Help* By the way, (after changing the name of the buffer, of course), I did C-u C-x = on a certain char. and found that none of the many numbers below was like the one on that row, "217x", in the "Characters in the charset chinese-big5-1" table. character: [i took it out of this mail] (0450362, 151794, 0x250f2) charset: chinese-big5-1 (Frequently used part (A141-C67F) of Big5 (Chinese traditional)) code point: 33 114 buffer code: 0x98 0xA1 0xF2 file code: 0xA1 0xB3 (encoded by coding system chinese-big5-unix) -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780