From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9084: 24.0.50; displaying man pages splits the window and formats the text for the full width of the whole frame rather than for the width of the window the text is displayed in, which is only 1/2 the width of the frame Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87k4bb3ecu.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <878vs0d10o.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <8762n4e5gy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E1FEC9C.2090102@gmx.at> <87aacerzv3.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87tyalilpf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zkkdouje.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87hb6kcx7z.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87hb6jtqua.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <877h7fc7vx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87livunq27.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <874o2hf0bt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E271225.9030704@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311258079 28748 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2011 14:21:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9084@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 21 16:21:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7m-0000IC-Gd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:21:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55242 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7l-0006HJ-U0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52781) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7e-0006EX-Ti for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7a-00019g-Bv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7a-00019c-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju7Z-0000fr-Qy; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: lee Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9084 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9084-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9084.13112580182537 (code B ref 9084); Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:21:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2011 14:20:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju6n-0000en-IB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:18 -0400 Original-Received: from static.103.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.103] helo=static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju6h-0000eD-G8 for 9084@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qju6b-00043b-37; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:20:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4E271225.9030704@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:36:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:21:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49497 martin rudalics writes: >>> Hm, sounds good to me. Is there some more info about this available? >>> Will this be implemented? >> >> I hope Martin could answer your questions whether in the new design >> is possible to achieve this by using window nests and splits. > > `display-buffer' allows to specify (1) the minimum height/width for the > popped-up window (the window is not created if this can't be done), and > (2) a desired height/width of the window after it has been created. If > this fails, the size of the popped-up window remains unchanged after the > split. Unfortunately, I don't know elisp well enough yet to understand the docstring of `display-buffer-alist'. It sounds extremely complicated to display a buffer in a window that has a particular size and position with the `display-buffer' function. Is everyone who's programming something in elisp that involves displaying buffers expected to implement their own window management to get buffers displayed the way they want them? What if the users want the buffers displayed differently than the programmers or use features that have their own window layouts that are conflicting with window layouts of other features? Perhaps there's something I don't understand ... A window manager like fvwm2 does not resize and/or reposition and/or remove all or some of the windows the user has carefully laid out on the display just because the user decides to display a manual page or an info document, or starts writing a reply to an email in one of the windows. What is the point of emacs destroying the users window layout all the time? -- http://www.asciiribbon.org/ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html