From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9402: list-colors-display Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:35:12 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87k49tfmw7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87obz83v0x.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <838vqcf086.fsf@gnu.org> <834o0yg5cm.fsf@gnu.org> <8762ldvs89.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ei01lfa7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83r541eaxq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314816790 6138 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2011 18:53:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9402@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 31 20:53:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QypuJ-0001Ez-Ec for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:53:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52341 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QypuI-0003dL-G8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QypuB-0002J9-Er for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyplM-00050L-Mj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyplM-00050H-Ih for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QypoU-0006Xp-6K; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9402.131481638224991 (code B ref 9402); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2011 18:46:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qypnp-0006Ux-Sj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:46:22 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qypnj-0006T8-IO for 9402@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:46:16 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AFE6E806F; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75F451C384; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:42:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r541eaxq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:40:49 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:47:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50488 Archived-At: > How many users actually change these system-level settings from their > defaults? My guess is zero. Many users switch pre-defined system themes (because this is very easy to do). And when the user likes the default system-level settings, it's the user's preference after all that should be respected. >> So Emacs should adapt to the platform defaults as much as possible. > > Obviously, I disagree. Emacs should have the same defaults on all > platforms, as much as possible. People such as myself who use Emacs > on multiple platforms become very confused when the colors they expect > don't show. For users that use more applications beside Emacs on one platform it's annoying when Emacs doesn't follow common system-wide look and feel. I think there are more users that use many applications on one platform and want all of them look the same than the number of users who use just Emacs and switch platforms frequently.