From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9243: 24.0.50; Gnus keeps seeing 101 unread spam Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:07:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87k3w8tkby.fsf@gnus.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346868485 3131 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2012 18:08:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9243@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 05 20:08:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K1G-0004Hp-JC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:08:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44820 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K1D-0003se-KZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K1A-0003sL-NS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K14-0002lP-N1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:08:00 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K14-0002l7-Jl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:07:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K1B-0001cQ-QC; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:08:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9243 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9243-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9243.13468684556188 (code B ref 9243); Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9243) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 18:07:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K0l-0001bl-82 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:07:35 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K0j-0001be-9b for 9243@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K0S-00022V-HR; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:07:17 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:56:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9K0S-00022V-HR MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347473237.868@tk3UEz5k9P1E9A/pLfPHyg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:63794 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Anyway, looking over this bug report, I'm not sure we really got >> anywhere with the main issue here. Are you still seeing these >> discrepancies in article numbers? > > Oh, yes. Actually, I now see something similar with comp.lang.ml > accessed via NNTP (additionally to the spam folder accessed over imap). Discrepancies in NNTP groups are to be expected. NNTP just reports high/low article numbers, and spam removal bots may remove articles. So Gnus may believe that there are 20 new articles in the group, but upon entering the group, half may already be gone. There's nothing much nntp.el can do about that. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen