From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14742: 24.3.50; enhancement request: be able to prepend stuff from buffer when search backward Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:53:00 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87k3l8ik77.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <4b9029ca-1775-482f-ba9a-46a891be7405@default> <87sj01c3n2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <7518b30b-63d2-40ea-956f-a504f40c4cfd@default> <87haggoc6r.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <8ada7269-baa9-483f-9595-d46619393aa7@default> <87y59ok18k.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <6ae1046e-e6ae-43ae-96ff-064fd01c9ec2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372810213 30547 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2013 00:10:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 00:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14742@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 02:10:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAeA-00020I-GM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:10:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48753 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAe9-0003pL-TQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAe6-0003mx-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAe3-0005aQ-Bs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAe3-0005ZO-7p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAe2-0002sv-H0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14742 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14742-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14742.137281014810962 (code B ref 14742); Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14742) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2013 00:09:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAd8-0002qj-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:32811 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UuAd5-0002qZ-US for 14742@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AD0258B9E915; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:09:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6ae1046e-e6ae-43ae-96ff-064fd01c9ec2@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:42:49 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75826 Archived-At: >> > 3. To me, yanking stuff to the beginning is more important than >> > deleting stuff from the beginning. I was thinking either have a >> > separate key (or set of keys) that is (are) analogous to the >> > yank-at-end key(s) or else just reuse the same keys when searching >> > backward. >> >> I have no idea about new keys, but I need this change to implement >> yanking/deletion by motion keys (disabled by default). > > Dunno what that means. Motion keys will yank or delete? > Doesn't sound too good, a priori. > Guess I missed the functional spec for that. ;-) No one tried this feature, but surprisingly it's very convenient. So I could implement only low-level support for this feature in isearch.el, then more high-level commands could be implemented somewhere else. > Why not just reuse the keys we already use to yank, but have them yank > at the beginning when you search in reverse? E.g.: > > C-w - `isearch-yank-word-or-char', but at the beginning. > C-y - `isearch-yank-kill', but at the beginning. > C-M-y - `isearch-yank-char', but at the beginning. > M-y - `isearch-yank-pop', but at the beginning. > M-x C-e - `isearch-yank-line', but at the beginning. > > Doesn't that seem natural? No, unfortunately there keys are not natural. > In Isearch+ I have even more than that for yanking. I would much > rather have a user be able to reuse the same keys in the opposite > direction. Do you mean a new boolean user option to define whether `C-M-y' should yank but at the beginning/end in a reverse search?