From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15800: 24.3.50; hebrew: describe-input-method, case sensitive or not Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:29:11 +0530 Message-ID: <87k3gn5wj4.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87fvrc43az.fsf@gmail.com> <83txfs877r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y554qgab.fsf@gmail.com> <83r4aw85kj.fsf@gnu.org> <87txfs9jqt.fsf@gmail.com> <83li1483j5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383624079 3316 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2013 04:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 04:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15800@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 05 05:01:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXpO-00048k-QW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:01:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53207 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXpO-0001ai-Fx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:01:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXpF-0001Ru-6M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:01:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXp9-0006ji-Aw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49111) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXp9-0006je-7x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXp8-0002aw-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 04:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15800 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15800-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15800.13836240129868 (code B ref 15800); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 04:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15800) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 04:00:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXoJ-0002Z5-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com ([209.85.192.169]:38528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXoD-0002Xy-FG for 15800@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:06 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q10so7723651pdj.0 for <15800@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:59:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=SI9gkh6RKb/ya5PhKp6fWpwBX6XlgSl/BZ9fKN4OZX8=; b=sEWCPz5sHzsSqyyHAheNU0XN2xQac/5r2ZYjNCAjNdvh62/EU6vttnIgVsKEY0qlbt L6LEz14D2o6UTLyuwIs93uzCRZqOkhECkVPQr5a6Nc0NJ2yBoVj+qBL+C4ZwzhyNxgi6 FwxHrz0c4z51ChUKqIasLThoMqj8Xj+gK/XbJG2YelQTP2WnV67iX2gycmWv50N7Eyaz HArUujQChSDErQ2n2wXarChYj9ngEpHnbVkdnXKWvOjHvmuE2Qzjr70uS25CufAnPx0X umQojjsawocNlMu7SD8KCj0tEEXx17/9VZs0ZDD1RqdxRO16M9k4s5vxE7LicJShNyh9 qyJQ== X-Received: by 10.66.119.78 with SMTP id ks14mr5796153pab.140.1383623998830; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:59:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.14.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fk4sm36986999pab.23.2013.11.04.19.59.56 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:59:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83li1483j5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:45:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80008 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I wonder what can we say in the introductory text before the layout, > to make this point clear. Sorry, I won't make any textual suggestions. There is a one-to-one correspondence between the standard layout and the layout that is displayed. The problem is that the standard layout is displayed elsewhere. (Do you really want me to split the window and have standard layout on top buffer and hebrew layout on the bottom buffer and figure out what comes first, uppercase or lowercase.) Displaying standard layout and virtual layout together (preferably side-by-side will help.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- ALSO, A simple example saying 'typing s gets you this' and 'typing S gets you that will help'. ---------------------------------------------------------------- OR You can simply do away with displaying the keyboard(s). Instead, give a one-to-one map between the input char and the output char. For example, see quail-help with input method set to tamil-itrans.