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[98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v12sm8589925qav.23.2014.03.21.03.23.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Mar 2014 03:23:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:39:28 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87094 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:39:28 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> I think the self-signed certificates are the one we can omit, it's a >> fairly rare use case. LMI> No, it's quite common for mail servers and the like. OK. With a certificate manager UI, do you think this use case is handled as I proposed, or do we need a more thorough solution here? Ted