From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18512: 24.3.93; tramp persistency file: incompatible with old versions? Tramp won't start! Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:51:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87k34yy5zx.fsf@gmx.de> References: <645389CC-2AA2-47CA-BE1F-72607DF8935A@gmail.com> <87zjduyctc.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411206751 18602 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2014 09:52:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , 18512@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 11:52:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHL5-0003El-VJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:52:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34026 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHL5-0007QR-JB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:52:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKw-0007Q9-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKp-0000GH-VX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKp-0000Fp-SG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKk-0004qw-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18512 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 18512-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18512.141120670418628 (code B ref 18512); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18512) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2014 09:51:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKR-0004qO-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:52801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVHKP-0004qD-5D for 18512@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 05:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([93.202.50.203]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lw2dd-1YN0dV0MNJ-017igs; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:51:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:14:47 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:WJSIQjlSRBUtblF5NiwhYBxKFgyzWb/m8w0hIB17iz91nsUEcgr MJZVUEbU+ZF7zWNF9LNAJwy3+joB6oM0I8lKZXQWHObLyXRaTw4NPhBlaEOgtsG1/ox83Vh nd901C8jIbNa3Hy7LLWyph7X9DT3NfFovTu51oRNnoUErbj5sEcmrqC1+tlCynNGNAkNcCp BXxfMaHSFHqYGGNkilmzA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93551 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Glenn Morris wrote: > >> We already added a startup warning if user-emacs-directory is in >> load-path, for precisely this kind of reason. (Eg calc has similar issues.) >> >> user-emacs-directory is not in load-path by default, so the question is; >> how did it come to be in load-path, and why was the warning not seen? > > And indeed there is exactly the issue with calc in the original report: > >>> Load-path shadows: >>> /Users/dr/Library/Application Support/Aquamacs Emacs/calc hides >>> /Users/dr/ae24.git/nextstep/Aquamacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calc/calc So you recommend to change nothing in Tramp, right? That's what I could do best :-) Best regards, Michael.