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[184.155.90.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e16sm2866842oic.16.2014.11.23.07.41.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Nov 2014 07:41:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4r26uc6.fsf@vsl28t2g.ww011> (H. Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:15:53 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96455 Archived-At: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes: > Drew Adams writes: > >> Please remove such silly messages, which do not tell users about a *key >> sequence* bound to the command they entered. > > Actually I find these messages very instructive for people like me, > which had no idea about this (new with Emacs-25?) abbreviation ability! Do you use the abbreviations a lot? The full M-x commands have descriptive names and are always available; the abbreviations given have neither of these qualities. Like Drew, I find the messages to be noise. Jay