From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
16026@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#16026: Connection specific settings and proxies
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:22:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k293ny36.fsf__42943.4899044738$1486394600$gmane$org@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mve3ffov.fsf__41803.1231420629$1486136780$gmane$org@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:37:52 +0100")
On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:37:52 +0100 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> wrote:
MA> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
MA> Hi Ted,
>> The way Michael set it up, you have connection profiles ("classes") that
>> can be associated with any variables. (For passers-by, see
>> `connection-local-set-class-variables', `connection-local-set-classes',
>> and `with-connection-local-classes'). Profiles can be overlaid to
>> augment each other.
>>
>> (Michael: maybe it's not too late to change "class" to "profile"
>> because the former is so overloaded in our field?)
MA> Well, I've stolen the "class" name from directory-local variables. The
MA> concept of connection-local variables is closed to that of directory-local.
MA> No problem to rename it, if it helps. And sometimes I'm even not sure
MA> whether we need the class/profile concept; it might be even sufficient
MA> to bind variables to connections directly, like variables can be bound
MA> directly to buffers.
I think from the user's side, it's necessary. We have to associate the
data with a profile, which is then exposed as a configurable entity.
Let's call them "connection profiles" to be very clear, since just
"profile" can be ambiguous as well.
>> I see. I think the classes should be associated with applications and
>> protocols and login names, not just connections. Michael, what do you
>> think? That would require changing the identification parameter to
>> `connection-local-get-classes' to be an alist or a plist like
>> :user U :application X :protocol Y :machine Z
MA> Well, currently a class is bound to a connection via a regexp, which is
MA> used for checking the result of `file-remote-p'. This is good for Tramp,
MA> but it is less good for url-* functionality unless `url-handler-mode' is
MA> enabled, and it does not work for other applications like imap-based
MA> connections.
MA> Your proposal looks OK to me. U, Y and Z shall be regexps, X a symbol
MA> (or also a regexp?). All of them shall be optional.
Wonderful. I propose that the application should be a defgroup symbol,
and every connection profile should be required to have a defgroup.
That would give us an implicit connection profile hierarchy and a place
to hook connection profile customizations at the UI level.
So defining connection profiles would be something like this:
(add-connection-profiles :user U :defgroup X :protocol Y :machine Z
:profile 'UXYZ :vars '(...))
(add-connection-profiles :profile 'general :vars '(...))
And then the application Gnus would do (note it's required that the
defgroup 'gnus exists):
(connection-profile-get-local-variables :defgroup 'gnus ...other criteria...)
From the user's side, they would say
M-x customize-connection-profile UXYZ ; change criteria or settings
M-x customize-connection-profile general ; change criteria or settings
M-x create-connection-profile atwork ; specify desired settings
M-x connection-profiles ; some kind of table/list UI
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Ted
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[not found] ` <mailman.7856.1385996719.10748.bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-02 15:19 ` bug#16026: Gnus shouldn't use old connections Sebastien Vauban
2013-12-02 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 16:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-25 16:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-25 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30 20:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-30 22:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-31 16:26 ` Michael Albinus
2017-02-02 3:43 ` bug#16026: Connection specific settings and proxies Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 23:58 ` Daniel McClanahan
[not found] ` <87o9ykr6os.fsf@flea>
2017-02-03 15:37 ` Michael Albinus
2017-02-06 15:22 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
[not found] ` <87k293ny36.fsf@flea>
2017-02-12 17:42 ` Michael Albinus
[not found] ` <87d1enz4p2.fsf@gmx.de>
2017-02-20 16:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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