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[69.174.136.231]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j96sm267903ioo.49.2017.07.19.10.59.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:59:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:10:52 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:134755 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:10:52 +0200 >On Jul 19 2017, eythanweg@gmail.com (Eythan Weg) wrote: =20=20=20 >> Agreed. However, the displays are different. Won=E2=80=99t expect b% a= nd relch >> behaves exactly the same? =20=20=20 >That's called convenience, probably. A little more than that. E.g. the org-mode speadsheet uses calc. Summing cells which display percentages like 10% and 90%, one expects the result to be 100% rather than 1. Here the uniform display of percentages is significant, I would say. Curiosity lead me to check the same operation on libreoffice and gnumeric. They both adhere to the expected. >Andreas. Eythan