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Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zony ([45.2.119.49]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e20sm1037803iof.38.2017.08.11.18.45.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:45:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87poc2qdlj.fsf@holos> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:22:00 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135668 Archived-At: Mark Oteiza writes: > I suppose the complaint is that "loading" semantic (or whatever happens > to get loaded when trying to get help on the semantic-mode function) is > invoking a python process. Either some library starts the process when > loaded, or=E2=80=A6 well I don't know what's going on. I can confirm the "*Warning* default value of <> tokens changed..." messages. I do not get the "Shell native completion is disabled, using fallback" message, and furthermore, evaluating (featurep 'python) afterwards gives nil. > Is there a bug associated with the new C-h f behaviour? No, it was introduced on emacs-devel, see [1] and followups. [1]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-05/msg00441.html > Tangentially, the python warning is , and > either something got broken again or this never actually got fixed. When I do M-x run-python native completion is enabled with no problem. Perhaps you should open a new bug with details about your python setup.