From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30347: smtpmail.el doesn't retry with authentication when greylisting is used Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:49:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0x59usr.fsf@gnus.org> References: <878t9o9ych.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87efjfkxkx.fsf@gmail.com> <8736zvyopn.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87r2nejf62.fsf@gmail.com> <87fu3urog5.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87muy13j50.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1181"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: 30347@debbugs.gnu.org, Rainer Orth Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 22:50:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO5l-0000CY-5g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:50:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO5j-0000LU-UN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO5S-0000KQ-Dc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO5S-0005ZP-47 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO5S-0007hd-1M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 20:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 30347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30347.159951177829545 (code B ref 30347); Mon, 07 Sep 2020 20:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2020 20:49:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO53-0007gT-Uv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO52-0007gE-By for 30347@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:49:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=o6h2pzrlMCott3AtKUce9Iy8R9px5h7QUTk6ojsj5Qg=; b=gAcmkuVpRCr+RStwN2N8g/kXmd 5NxP00p5Pu6kHF//6XHsEePrIGYJ2DUW/ciyeobCp8Urd2JZuelW/PiBe6/QG9dyRiXS8WzdPUth8 YN+/k+Z73P4JLdPbTCDYlp72D/ahgR0+hA16wnMWz6PgioRH+qVuJYDAZbaMTZIQQicg=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFO4s-0003Tr-7X; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:49:29 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Drew McDowall's _The Third Helix_: "Nothing Is Hidden" In-Reply-To: <87muy13j50.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:14:19 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187488 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: >> Because Emacs doesn't know that the user has a password entry in >> ~/.authinfo.gpg until the user has type the password. (If the user is >> using password-protected ~/.authinfo files without a password agent, >> that is.) > > Ah, people who like typing passwords all the time. I see your point, though. So I think this isn't something we should try to automate -- the user will just have to specify that the SMTP connection uses a password. (I think that's pretty common for mail user agents.) So I'm closing this bug report as a "wontfix". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no