From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Petteri Hintsanen <petterih@iki.fi>
Cc: 61325@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 10:43:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k00ej5p3.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edqn6pmc.fsf@iki.fi>
Petteri Hintsanen <petterih@iki.fi> writes:
> Looking at the big picture, Gnus manual is full of jokes, irony,
> self-deprecation, and other literary devices. It is a losing battle to
> try to somehow clean it up by cutting some, possibly objectionable or
> confusing, thorns. The manual is full of them.
I do not think that objectionable jokes are many in the Gnus manual.
I do not think that jokes Gnus manual are all bad.
I believe that we can improve the jokes in the Gnus manual, replace
some, or add new. We cannot treat manuals as a complete literary piece
that must not be changed significantly even when the underlying software
is being actively developed.
> The whole manual should be rewritten, if one wants to have it written in
> "neutral" style -- whatever that would be. For the sake of argument,
> let's say that "without literary gimmicks of any kind."
I do not think so. We can have jokes in GNU manuals. Officially.
https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Humor
> As for adjusting the tone of the current manual, I don't see much return
> of investment. That energy would be better spent elsewhere. I'd leave
> the current manual as-is.
I believe that the current manual can be improved without rewriting. It
is more likely than someone rewriting it.
--
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2023-02-06 16:01 bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 16:20 ` dick
2023-02-12 6:11 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-06 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 16:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 16:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 17:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-18 13:59 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2023-02-19 10:43 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-02-20 5:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-06 17:23 ` Pankaj Jangid
2023-02-06 17:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 18:37 ` Pankaj Jangid
2023-02-06 18:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-07 2:04 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-07 11:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2023-02-18 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
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2023-02-20 5:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-22 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-25 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-08 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-12 6:38 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-09 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-07 19:45 ` Pankaj Jangid
2023-02-07 19:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-09 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
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2023-02-07 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-08 8:11 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-08 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-08 12:59 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-07 15:41 ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-09 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
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2023-02-12 4:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-08 4:31 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-08 4:46 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-12 6:46 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-15 14:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-16 1:27 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-17 12:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-17 5:22 ` Jean Louis
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2023-02-22 4:33 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-22 6:02 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-26 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-08 13:06 ` dick
2023-02-08 15:35 ` Akib Azmain Turja via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-08 16:06 ` dick
2023-02-15 14:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-16 1:34 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-17 12:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 4:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-19 10:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 11:01 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-19 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-02-20 12:34 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-07 13:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-07 20:02 ` No Wayman
2023-03-07 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 12:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-19 13:05 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-19 13:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-20 18:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-21 2:30 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-22 4:34 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-22 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-07 13:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-08 0:22 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-08 14:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2023-03-10 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-10 7:03 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-09 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-08 5:34 ` Jean Louis
2023-03-08 14:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-09 1:21 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 14:50 ` Jean Louis
2023-03-09 4:26 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-10 11:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2023-03-10 12:06 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-10 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:41 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 15:01 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-19 15:56 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-20 12:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-20 12:37 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-20 14:28 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-20 14:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-20 17:01 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-20 11:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-27 3:26 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-19 5:07 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-18 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-19 10:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-15 15:34 ` Stefan Kangas
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2023-02-18 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-17 5:24 ` Jean Louis
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2023-02-08 13:42 ` Visuwesh
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2023-02-12 6:32 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-14 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-14 11:17 ` Jean Louis
2023-03-09 4:05 ` Sam James
2023-03-09 14:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-09 14:17 ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-09 16:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-09 17:06 ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-09 20:10 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
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2023-03-13 15:05 ` Jean Louis
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