From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:51:26 +0000 Message-ID: <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33634"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org To: Visuwesh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 14 15:52:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVXzT-0008aZ-Fp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 14 Aug 2023 15:51:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> (Visuwesh's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 17:59:22 +0530") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267416 Archived-At: Visuwesh writes: > Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Help* > buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' > > char-after is a built-in function in =E2=80=98src/editfns.c=E2=80=99. > > (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker > integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 > 2305843009213693951))) > > Return character in current buffer at position POS. > POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. > If POS is out of range, the value is nil. > > If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? Only functions have types, these are not the same types those given to user options. That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like (function (&optional position) (or position null)) using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not highlight the information so prominently?