From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reinhard Tartler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87iql7uufj.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> References: <87r5zwudbv.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <87ljq49a42.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <87y6u4se64.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <87tz4sscn3.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <87r5zvv0vp.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Reply-To: Reinhard Tartler , 1529@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239768500 23207 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2009 04:08:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1529@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Romain Francoise To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 15 06:09:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LtwRO-0000VO-0u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:09:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LtwPz-0005UN-CX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ltknn-0004SR-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ltkni-0004Ql-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47185 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ltkni-0004QV-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38308) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ltknh-0002nW-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3EFho1g005319; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:43:51 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3EFU5Yt001364; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:30:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Reinhard Tartler Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:30:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1529 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 1529-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1529.12397228731051 (code B ref 1529); Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:30:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1529) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Apr 2009 15:27:53 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.iossol.de (mail4.iossol.de [213.239.249.90]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3EFRnKp001043 for <1529@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:27:51 -0700 Original-Received: from mail.int-colo-nuernberg.priv ([192.168.77.76] helo=mail.iossol.de) by mail.iossol.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LtkY7-0003Es-Sx; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:47 +0200 Original-Received: from vserver163.int-colo-nuernberg.priv by mail.iossol.de (Merak 8.0.10) with ESMTP (SSL) id JCB74622; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:47 +0200 Original-Received: from faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.129] helo=faui44a) by vserver163.int-colo-nuernberg.priv with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtkY6-0008CZ-6x; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:46 +0200 Original-Received: from siretart by faui44a with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtkY5-0002Wf-5L; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:45 +0200 X-Url: http://tauware.de In-Reply-To: (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:14:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:43:58 -0400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:07:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27194 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: > Reinhard Tartler writes: > >> However during my tests, I discovered the following: >> >> when pressing C-x C-f /ssh: >> ^ >> at that point, tramp gets loaded. I notice >> that in the minibuffer by a flashing message. >> >> In a "clean" environment (running emacs with -Q), this happens only the >> first time I do that in my emacs session. in my "unclean" session (that >> is with my customisations), this happens every time. >> >> Any clue how to debug these automatic loadings? > > Send me your .emacs and related files, if they are not secret. I try to > reproduce. I don't think they will help you. I've figured out that it does not happen if one removes the emacs-goodies-el package, which adds system customisation to emacs. Currently the best testcase would be to install a debian or ubuntu system in some virtual machine. I'll keep on trying to produce a "more" minimal testcase. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4