From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Karpov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20817: 25.0.50; Problems with upgrading of packages Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 21:58:32 +0600 Message-ID: <87ioalatzr.fsf@openmailbox.org> References: <87y4jhyvjj.fsf@openmailbox.org> <871th9gkri.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87egl959cq.fsf@openmailbox.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434643432 31788 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2015 16:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:03:52 +0000 (UTC) To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, 20817@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 18 18:03:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cHr-0003HI-1X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:03:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53668 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cHp-0002Or-Fg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40741) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cGW-0000CV-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cGR-0004RY-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49783) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cGQ-0004RC-Nv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cGP-0001CG-UR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mark Karpov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20817 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20817-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20817.14346432914562 (code B ref 20817); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20817) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jun 2015 16:01:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51229 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cFu-0001BW-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp1.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.35]:44237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5cFs-0001BK-D1 for 20817@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FE320070F; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:01:27 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=openmailbox.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:date :references:subject:subject:from:from:received; s=openmailbox; t=1434643285; bh=Wryur/0kPUYJYanLPnwxPjQ2lpHjyoge99YP04PGElM=; b= Bh2tw05zcQL1CGga/2Isigz6QbNMHOIukXBW5buSeCOjztNLXVbQ4zl+BwlAGG39 twuE2Jy5LfM1DwI5pt8p3xUGb+SvmDsA4NcpJG60672Q8nT+4LQRDBml916Y6M3B 2w+xdNVn4BdH3MgRPXZN7j7kV8/t7UtfZnk/q7KgLrQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at openmailbox.org Original-Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.33]) by localhost (mail.openmailbox.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fNziKII-Fj2e; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:01:25 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:41:01 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104099 Archived-At: > You can fake a downgrade. > 1. Rename one of the directories inside ".elpa" (like "org-2015nnnn" > to "org-1"), > 2. change the version number inside the "org-1/org-pkg.el" file, > 3. restart emacs (or maybe just M-x package-initialize). Great, now I'm remembering that I used this trick some time ago to test one my function (it upgrades all packages without displaying *packages* buffer =E2=80=94 good feature to have, by the way). Now, the interesting thing is that this advice really makes difference. Without it, there are no problems. With this advice in place, I'm getting message that some package is unavailable. I remember that not long time ago it worked even with this advice (I think so). However, I'm still considering it a bug, because I don't see why such an advice cannot be used. Now, at least, we can tell where the problem really lies. It should be easier now to understand why this happens.