From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18829: 25.0.50; (emacs) manual: relation between `package-initialize' and `require' & `load-path' Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:49:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87inyzp2xt.fsf@gnus.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462027842 15042 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 14:50:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18829@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 16:50:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awWE2-0001BL-3M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:50:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58665 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWDy-0004xY-7o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:50:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWDp-0004kG-Dp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:50:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWDd-0003Co-Lk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awWDd-0003BU-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:50:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWDZ-00016H-UP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:50:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18829 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18829-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18829.14620277474146 (code B ref 18829); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18829) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 14:49:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWCg-00014o-Pf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWCf-00014g-6j for 18829@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awWCc-0003My-E8; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:49:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:25:44 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117337 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > There is apparently a fair amount of confusion, especially by new users, about the relation between `require' and `load-path', on > the one hand, and `package-initialize', on the other. > > The doc for these is not together (which is normal), and it might help > to (a) provide cross references and (b) I've now done this... > explicitly say that if you use `package-initialize' then you do > (should) not need to explicitly adjust `load-path' and `require' the > relevant code. And this. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no