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From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: 23486@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23486: 25.0.93; Modules: features missing from make_function
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:57:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inu21o35.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wvr4a8jzchll.fsf@a.muc.corp.google.com> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Mon, 09 May 2016 18:37:58 +0200")

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:

> emacs_env::make_function lacks the following features supported by
> `defun':
>
> 1. Functions with both optional and rest arguments.
> 2. Specification of parameter names.
> 3. Integration with `help-function-arglist'.
> 4. Specification of interactive forms.
> 5. Specification of declare forms.
> 6. Docstrings containing null or non-Unicode characters.
>
> (6) is probably rather unimportant.  (5) is probably not implementable
> (would require wrapping `defun', not `lambda').  (1)–(4) are more severe
> and quite limit the usefulness of make_function right now; for a
> truly generic `defun'-like construct one currently has to eval a `defun'
> form wrapping another function.

Shouldn't modules be providing a DEFUN-like construct instead?  That is,
I thought the idea of modules was to enable writing primitive
subroutines.

>
> To solve (1)–(3), I'd propose replacing the "arity" arguments with a
> true arglist specification.  This could either be at the C level, e.g.
>
>     ptrdiff_t num_mandatory_args, char** mandatory_arg_names,
>     ptrdiff_t num_optional_args, char** optional_arg_names,
>     char* rest_arg_name
>
> or by requiring to pass a Lisp argument list.
>
> To solve (4) I'd propose to pass another value for the interactive form,
> probably as emacs_value* (to support non-interactive functions).
>
> As an alternative, if people feel this would require too many
> parameters, I'd propose reverting the change that adds the documentation
> string.  A docstring without arglist is not very useful.  We could also
> remove the arity parameters and have the C function check the arity
> itself.

I think adding "(fn ARG1 ARG2...)" to the docstring would solve (1)-(3).
What's lacking is a way to add this automagically like DEFUN does.  And
getting the parameters in C variables like DEFUN would also be nice.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-11 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-09 16:37 bug#23486: 25.0.93; Modules: features missing from make_function Philipp Stephani
2016-09-11 14:13 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-11 14:57 ` npostavs [this message]
2017-03-26 20:02   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-03-26 20:22     ` npostavs
2017-03-26 20:40       ` Philipp Stephani
2017-03-27  3:57 ` npostavs
2017-07-04 18:20   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-05  3:40     ` npostavs
2020-09-05 13:59       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-13  9:44         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-09-13 13:20           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-13 18:50             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-07 16:42               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-12 14:31                 ` Philipp Stephani

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