From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33005: 27.0.50; Data loss with Gnus registry Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:12:35 -0700 Message-ID: <87in281hf0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <871s8yvsrq.fsf@web.de> <87in29x33z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r2gxygox.fsf@web.de> <87efcxwzr2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ldtlcks.fsf@web.de> <87ftxdl7w1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a7nkhcu2.fsf@web.de> <87r2gwzl1b.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539281471 6267 195.159.176.226 (11 Oct 2018 18:11:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:11:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 33005@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 11 20:11:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfQR-0001WH-74 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:11:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35851 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfSX-0007gI-Qy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfSM-0007es-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfSI-00080x-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfSI-00080j-IS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfSI-00074j-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33005.153928155827166 (code B ref 33005); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2018 18:12:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45451 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfRu-000746-6n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([50.56.99.223]:46475) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAfRt-00073z-DU for 33005@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:12:37 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (97-113-224-119.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.224.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAE183F09B; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:12:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1539281557; bh=Pi4LT54LRhCehaILJEUqMm62IiF9DMoDtjJv3FxCUtc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SnQsA+43KH4RlSIiT2UZbA5xVDfP9+X4tV+xLWfFwM1LAU0pNq2NkwbqCG2QWkF0i BPy65uXLIAUUXr/94Y4lYqUYJ928hRLIC3rMeZpkJ++/SM3tgqN2ZAlDYbeWz1rTQT v4WwAII5kUAxpTohWLe9Fcxdr3/h/n4x53MNMdjQ= In-Reply-To: <87r2gwzl1b.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:10:24 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:151131 Archived-At: On 10/11/18 15:10 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> Anyway, seems it never worked like that. > > But what's even more frightening: The default value of > `gnus-registry-extra-entries-precious', (mark), always behaved like () > and thus never worked as intended, so it seems that registry marks > always where broken with the defaults. Looks like nobody ever tried to > use them, or all people gave up without writing a bug report. I don't think very many people use the registry, or at least, they aren't using it intentionally to store their own information. > Should we even make a NEWS entry along the fix saying that the feature > can actually be used now? I don't think so, bug fixes don't usually get a NEWS entry. But I can say something on the gnus.general list. Also, I really like the idea of using the registry to attach notes to mails -- that's something I've intended for Gnorb for a while. If you'd like to contribute that to Gnorb I'd be very happy to accept it, or maybe it's something that could even go into the registry proper. Of course, if you'd prefer to keep it a separate package that's fine too -- I'd install it! Thanks, Eric