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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q74sm21461399iod.72.2019.09.01.06.57.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 01 Sep 2019 06:57:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: ("Francesco \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Potort\=C3\=AC\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:17:56 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166135 Archived-At: Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: >>>Lars: >>>>Seems a bit small for a separate package. And the repeated call thing >>>>could be useful in itself. Couldn't the increment behaviour be enabled >>>>by a non-numeric argument instead? > >>Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: >>> What do you suggest? Maybe M-3 M-p copies the next three characters, >>> while C-u 3 M-p increments by three? > >>M-3 and C-u 3 do the same thing, I think? > > They normally do. And they do in this case. But it can be changed, and > I was following up with your suggestion, with a proposal for a different > user interface where M-3 and C-u 3 do different things. No, both C-u 3 and M-3 will set the prefix argument to 3, so commands cannot distinguish between them. I know I suggested the numeric vs non-numeric thing, but I think I was just confused about it. Non-numeric arguments are only good for a single toggle (increment vs no increment), not control over a amount (increment by X). And you can't express both at once (both increment and repeat).