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[109.212.132.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c7sm51430520wro.16.2020.12.25.15.38.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:38:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3b97680e-761a-4075-b64a-ad6d3a1004bf@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:35:42 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196742 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > It's no doubt too late now, at least in general, > but maybe it would make sense to use a prefix > for Tramp, kind of like what we do for libraries. I might be missing something, but it seems to me like there is a rather large design space for opt-in, backward-compatible ways to disambiguate Tramp methods: off the top of my head, I could imagine e.g. a variable (say "tramp-implicit-methods") which - could default to t, meaning: > always assume that /foo can actually mean /trampfoo for all foo's > supported by Tramp - could be set to a list of commonly used Tramp methods, e.g. '("ssh" "sudoedit"), meaning: > when I type /ssh, assume that I can mean /trampssh; otherwise if I > type /foo assume that I never mean /trampfoo - could be set to nil, meaning: > when I type /foo, I *never* mean /trampfoo for any foo supported by > Tramp; I will always type out /trampfoo: Or we could go the opposite route, with e.g. tramp-explicit-methods (nil by default), which in the context of this report could be set to '("media") so that /media can complete to /media/$USER, and users would be required to type out /trampmedia: explicitly.