From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53196: 28.0.90; Default Emacs is too noisy Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:56:33 +0800 Message-ID: <87ilupydoe.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <874k6a9g8j.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Reply-To: Po Lu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: 53196@debbugs.gnu.org To: "N. 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Jackson's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:20:28 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19551 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223974 Archived-At: "N. Jackson" writes: > I ran emacs -Q today (to confirm a bug) and I was driven to > distraction by all the beeping. [My Emacs is mercifully silent, > presumably(?) because I have `visible-bell' turned on, so I'm not > used to all the noise.] On this system the beep sounds like a drop > of water falling into a pool and it is very loud (even though I keep > my volume level set quite low). Just a few minutes in emacs -Q was a > torture. > > It seems that this noisiness must be a deterrent to new users > starting to use Emacs; it would certainly discourage some from > sticking with it when they first use it. > > One simple improvement would be to not sound a beep when the user > presses `C-g'. That would reduce the amount of noise very greatly. They can turn on visible-bell, I think. Ringing the bell is quite an important feature that many of us have been tuned to listen to, and disabling that by default would be quite sad. Thanks.