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Wed, 18 May 2022 06:25:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 May 2022 15:45:24 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232564 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 18, 2022]= Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530 >> Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org,=20 >> Eli Zaretskii >>=20 >> I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old >> name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. >>=20 >> Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. >> No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I thi= nk it should not be readded. > > AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this > correct? Indeed, Hindi is one of the languages that use the Devanagari script. > If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one that > says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says > "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses > Devanagari? The problem here is that most of the North Indian language greetings are "Namaskar" or "Namaste" (which is what the "Devanagari" greeting is currently). But I maybe mistaken since I do not really know any of the North Indian languages; my knowledge of Hindi is superficial at best. Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the Devanagari script as well. >> Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name >> are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a >> script. >>=20 >> I feel like 11 years is enough time. > > In Emacs, 11 years is nowhere near "long enough". > > And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in > script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. > >> Only two functions are changed where it affects the user, both are >> input methods: odia-itrans and >> odia-inscript. > > As I wrote in the review of the patch, we cannot suddenly remove input > methods that we had for 20 years. We must find a less drastic > solution.