From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36649: 27.0.50; pure space and pdumper Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 14:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilof1yci.fsf@gnus.org> References: <834k00es7e.fsf@gnu.org> <83zghsd7n6.fsf@gnu.org> <83a69rdgt9.fsf@gnu.org> <87a69r50yy.fsf@gnus.org> <838rpbdg3m.fsf@gnu.org> <871qv3dcy5.fsf@yahoo.com> <8335fjdcfy.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7y7bxdy.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rpb3egd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bku7bt6p.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38807"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 14:42:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o7cRu-0009w4-9M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o7cQo-00027n-0x; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 14:41:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87bku7bt6p.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:22:22 +0800") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEXHvq9gW1ZSJywb FhWPV1v///9jtUDFAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+YHAgs7B7pj094AAAG0SURBVDjLdZSB jesgDIadewyAORbAdICL6QA2x/4znQkkoVKepbYSX39s/xgA/hsBn8IDFCpcKDNxJotceuQfAKZM WV+VXlWkEr0k5FJ/usL+mV+RqEEjqm8lOhRdSeQrvQEUG+Gx2QSccNNeiQKGsABDfha55VVRmOJZ /vapILLiQ+otrIpjuR0Ch9RX3h3kAWaEfAO2jqM2ca21IZhgR7lyQyt0grKrtAu4kq/ku/pNnkF0 zwpEuUHmFdzJR8cD8NndYcknwEewhxSdZbGPE1284jAtiVEN5BVQoETJJibq0fkE5lWwLzTbIxKt ihAoh05gQ7y9MrMLJUjfHMBFq4snaBhYvbRvqgDe3QpQ3UUQopoDsl3AMsHuAeHXO4aegxfQu/7n NSneVZ3A2bzp19L57rxtLzahLtXf1SuMDVUQ1QZ0jMnpbpQgiuJw65Z9WDLCRLSeR7dwDuiqsIHr a7FFRW1N9eMEA1q141D046AmmEWtyZPd7Ova2h2Uqyq/4X2fH8Bdbr8Fdr9brP0n10w8H4BSuS9Z sWefXEfy/lq88ljrrwEfWw0rknkRrgzjJJ7jD7BVjujBIt4hAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAy MDIyLTA3LTAyVDExOjU5OjA3KzAwOjAw5y6ArwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wNy0w MlQxMTo1OTowNyswMDowMJZzOBMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: The Clash's _Sandinista!_: "One More Time" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235908 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Which GNU/Linux distribution is that? > > The reporter used Debian. According to: https://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/ The Debian m68k port was first officially released with Debian 2.0 (hamm) and was an official port until Debian 4.0 (etch). There's now an effort to revive this port. Debian 4.0 was over a decade ago, so either they were using Debian from 2010, or they're part of the effort to revive the port. Hm... Ah! https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=emacs&arch=m68k&ver=1%3A27.1%2B1-3&stamp=1604857999&raw=0 This isn't a report from somebody using Emacs on m68k, but a Debian developer trying to revive the port. (Which has not happened.) So it seems safe to assume that nobody uses Emacs on m68k. >> Anyway, I don't feel that carrying around unexec just for m68k is >> warranted -- it's a super duper marginal platform, and probably isn't >> used for real work by anybody. (So they can use older Emacs versions if >> they absolutely have to.) > > unexec isn't doing any harm by itself, so there's no reason to not keep > it. I don't forsee much trouble in keeping pure space behind a few > ifdefs; it should be a mostly mechanical job. But Eli doesn't want to get rid of purespace (which we do want to) until we get rid of unexec, so unexec is blocking progress in that sense. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no