From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64724: 30.0.50; Inconsistency between manual, comments in the code, and implementation of point adjustment Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:14:55 +0000 Message-ID: <87iladmpfk.fsf@localhost> References: <87bkg81j0i.fsf@localhost> <83fs5j4zti.fsf@gnu.org> <878rbarjuv.fsf@localhost> <83pm4m3mkh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tttx7leo.fsf@localhost> <83cz0l1qsn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37206"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64724@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 21 14:15:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp2U-0009OP-QO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:15:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp2G-0002iH-Md; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp2E-0002hy-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp2E-0006oe-E5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp2E-0007Pm-9X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64724 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64724-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64724.168994169428478 (code B ref 64724); Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64724) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 12:14:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp26-0007PF-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:40357) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMp22-0007Oy-Vs for 64724@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63BC240027 for <64724@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:14:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689941684; bh=JGlaPk1hmA0OiwKCFPXpW0eSNulNrYc1xtB7SnNkdtk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=F8t94Q0qO3fIDZxZ5AueS5TUVh0W7CU1PJH6JHiXemZpc84HiQaPV/OAwRJOMceOb 5MHUn4ycUCvcscKS1wC0mZ6k7TNUGVsZgh3tIXsqWidOHsQhAgWC5RH+sx1Sru5tRT Nwga8nryApV11r/q8t9r7/jXG3ptCLoV+n4H1Zybp/1Hj1yfaBlE3UIKg8pu4SmJ5G 8es4GKs8EOYabUy+oqlCK151q0rpdBBHUF7D4PRqnHTSEtYAlwa7Pqj4wD8MN6Eyu+ MFwtrgsB7Qm1RmxouGEuxtUFVQEnjh/zQlzhIZ5/qCec5V/jqUHw84F02g8z/ZqXuC EXjpAjMkL86OA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R6pQW5jLvz9rxK; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:14:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83cz0l1qsn.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265680 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The situation I encountered is when point ends up not in the middle, but >> already on the edge. So, Emacs moving point to _other_ edge was >> surprising. > > That's because where to move point in these situations depends on > where it was before. We could describe these details of the > heuristics we use, but I very much doubt it will be useful in > practice. And the heuristics could change in the future, which makes > this a maintenance problem. I think you misunderstood. I know that the logic how Emacs chooses which boundary to move to is not documented. However, my problem is not with this logic. My problem is that info page says that point adjustment happens when point is _inside_ invisible region. However, in my situation the point is already at the boundary (that is: _not inside_). > So I tend to think this bug should be closed with no further action. > The main purpose of that node is to explain how to disable this point > adjustment, not describe in detail what it does and how. Please remember that info page was just one of the points I listed in the initial report. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at