From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: <87ila57o10.fsf@localhost> References: <87jzun7x34.fsf@localhost> <871qguxirf.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf99ncfi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2741"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , 64871@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 27 10:39:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwX2-0000WM-Um for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 10:39:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQv-0003tl-RK; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQj-0003sW-2Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQh-0000PZ-1R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQf-0001i1-Iw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:33:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64871 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64871-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64871.16904467446523 (code B ref 64871); Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64871) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2023 08:32:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQ3-0001h9-Ir for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:46213) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOwQ1-0001gw-4J for 64871@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 04:32:22 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FEDE240105 for <64871@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 10:32:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1690446735; bh=9yHZuTPb7yNNzV8OiSMWhmErXtqu8FO5/9JDp6fYNLk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=OAohaHbb68JMaVjnvK84PJbX5ZVyz4kpn+rLsxTCRBCXBxSt/caYg/ykmeLoYJnEj BWiQY4fR84HUL1EvbwbhxoMk+VYcm7YAGs9lYyf56uxsSmwEBTkodM+XOYWG2fICzl RPFzX0vf8+zYyVRpx2VKuhQZXQ9xXwMTHxOfxy5qlVLpP+HzgYGqmeaSJ0cJ3romy4 Cwu0oH9HO8eaLPDWIN1QW1LFbX/JmdJZAWRkMIbhY5aGMGa9uFZRjnuNkZCc6Yxa5U uhuVMrL8l+D5nEUNoobvKVjUEsNP1nROdwNELb+a1bvQVU+cLVLxYzUrg1yejmUsDU TrFBF0KLG5z1Q== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RBPC24hNqz6tmv; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 10:32:14 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83sf99ncfi.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266170 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Before concluding that this suggestion will cause trouble to the > over-crowded menu bar, we should talk about where this new items might > be placed. If we place it in an existing sub-menu, then the problems > it will cause might not be that grave. For example, how about the > Options->Customize Emacs sub-menu? My instincts from other GUI apps tell me that common places where customization staff is located is Options->Preferences, Edit->Preferences, or Tools->Preferences. Options->Customize sounds like something new users would be able to find. >> The Emacs manual holds a description of the location of user >> initialization files. > > In a 55-line subsection, plus another 54-line section in the > Appendices that describes the Windows-specific quirks! I myself had difficulties finding what is "~" on Windows. > To be fair, the tool bar still has some free space on it. But I > actually wonder about something else: what other applications have a > tool-bar button to access the init file, or even just the > customization menu? "Preferences" gear icon is something I have seen on toolbars. And for init file, it is not a common concept. Another idea could be adding a button that will open init file right into customize interface (near "Apply"). Side note: I now tried to look into Emacs "preferences" via menu and it feels a bit awkward. Options->Customize Emacs-> has "Top-level customization group" and "Browse customization groups" do not sound very different and I would never guess (even knowing Emacs) that "browse" implies short overview of all options. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at