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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:32:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ila57o10.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sf99ncfi.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Before concluding that this suggestion will cause trouble to the
> over-crowded menu bar, we should talk about where this new items might
> be placed.  If we place it in an existing sub-menu, then the problems
> it will cause might not be that grave.  For example, how about the
> Options->Customize Emacs sub-menu?

My instincts from other GUI apps tell me that common places where
customization staff is located is Options->Preferences,
Edit->Preferences, or Tools->Preferences.

Options->Customize sounds like something new users would be able to
find.

>> The Emacs manual holds a description of the location of user
>> initialization files.
>
> In a 55-line subsection, plus another 54-line section in the
> Appendices that describes the Windows-specific quirks!

I myself had difficulties finding what is "~" on Windows.

> To be fair, the tool bar still has some free space on it.  But I
> actually wonder about something else: what other applications have a
> tool-bar button to access the init file, or even just the
> customization menu?

"Preferences" gear icon is something I have seen on toolbars.
And for init file, it is not a common concept.

Another idea could be adding a button that will open init file right
into customize interface (near "Apply").

Side note: I now tried to look into Emacs "preferences" via menu and it
feels a bit awkward. Options->Customize Emacs-> has "Top-level
customization group" and "Browse customization groups" do not sound very
different and I would never guess (even knowing Emacs) that "browse"
implies short overview of all options.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-27  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26 11:04 bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  1:09 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27  5:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27  5:44     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27  6:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 12:29         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27 12:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27  8:32     ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-07-27  8:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27  9:08         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  9:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28  8:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 12:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 12:24                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 12:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 12:47                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 14:15                   ` Drew Adams
2023-08-03  8:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-03  8:36                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-03  9:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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