bug#70984: 30.0.50; Improved support for entering quotation marks, Re: bug#70984: 30.0.50; Improved support for entering quotation marks

[Stephen Berman via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>]

On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:10:03 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:

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>     >> (The official German layout has them on 2nd or 3rd
>     >> level shift variants of 'x' and 'v', which I thought was too
>     >> convoluted to emulate).
>
> 'AltGr × <release> S-v' to produce "‘", for example, where '×' is
> located where Iʼd put ESC.

Sorry, I don't follow you here.  (Or do you mean like the key sequences
I give for these characters below?  But there there's no ESC and no
release.)

>     Stephen> Probably.  To add to the convolution, I use a German keyboard under
>     Stephen> Xfce4 with the no dead keys layout, and that assigns "„" to AltGr-v and
>     Stephen> "“" to AltGr-b; no idea why...
>
> Thatʼs a gratuitous but coherent difference from the T2 layout, and
> much easier to type. 'C-x 8 v' and 'C-x 8 b' (and thus 'A-v' and
> 'A-b') are unused by iso-transl, we could put them there as well (or
> only there) for the German language, since they seem sensible.
>
> Where do you have "‚" and "‘"? We can copy those as well.

AltGr-S-v for "‚" and AltGr-S-b for "‘", which nicely parallels the
bindings for "„" and "“", but it seems that can't be done with the C-x 8
map: Typing `C-x 8 S-v' tells me "C-x 8 v is undefined" (n.b.: "v" not "V").

Steve Berman