From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Thuna <thuna.cing@gmail.com>
Cc: 72344@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#72344: [PATCH] Add a version of cl-once-only which handles lists of forms
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 10:51:43 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikwi5neo.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plqw0y9j.fsf@gmail.com> (Thuna's message of "Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:54:48 +0200")
Hello,
On Mon 29 Jul 2024 at 09:54pm +02, Thuna wrote:
> `cl-once-only*' is meant to work in situations where `cl-once-only' does
> not, namely a situation where you do not know the number of forms to be
> evaluated.
>
> While such a situation *could* exist without, the cases which benefit
> from `cl-once-only*' are overwhelmingly likely to be of the
>
> (defmacro _ (control &rest args)
> `(progn
> (do-something-with-control ,@args)
> (foo ,@args)))
>
> variety. The problem here is that the forms in ARGS will be evaluated
> twice while we only want it to happen once. An alternative way to
> achieve this would be to do
>
> (defmacro _ (control &rest args)
> (cl-with-gensyms (argslist)
> `(let ((,argslist (list ,@args)))
> ...)))
>
> and either let-bind ARGS to ARGSLIST or only refer to ARGSLIST within
> the body, keeping in mind that ARGSLIST is only a symbol during
> macroexpansion and that in order to refer to individual arguments you
> need to do (nth N ,ARGSLIST) such that the expanded code itself finds
> the relevant argument among all the ones.
>
> With `cl-once-only*', ARGSLIST (or rather ARGS) is not a symbol but a
> list of symbols so to refer to the individual argument you do ,(nth N
> ARGS) and you can simply wrap your macro which worked (sans the double
> evaluating) without the `cl-once-only*' and it should simply* work out of
> the box.
Thanks. If you have indeed been coming across this in practice, then it
seems worth adding a macro like this.
Btw, I think we would want to see an update to cl.texi along with your
change.
> I don't necessarily think that that name is bad but it doesn't quite get
> to the heart of the macro either.
>
> The macro is meant to be a `cl-once-only' which works on a list of
> forms, and I feel that the "of forms" part is more important than the
> "list" part, which is conceptually more likely to take on a meaning of
> some ambiguous "collection" rather than a chain of cons cells.
I think we should reserve the starred name for now. As you said, your
macro doesn't come up often, and we might later come up with a variant
of cl-once-only that we want to use very often.
cl-seq-once-only ?
--
Sean Whitton
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-03 2:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-28 21:17 bug#72344: [PATCH] Add a version of cl-once-only which handles lists of forms Thuna
2024-07-29 0:39 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 19:30 ` Thuna
2024-07-29 19:54 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 7:09 ` Sean Whitton
2024-07-29 19:54 ` Thuna
2024-08-03 2:51 ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2024-08-03 22:40 ` Thuna
2024-08-06 1:41 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-06 1:47 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-09 5:44 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-06 12:28 ` Thuna
2024-08-06 12:37 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-13 21:17 ` Thuna
2024-08-13 21:36 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-13 22:18 ` Thuna
2024-08-13 22:57 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-14 0:01 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-14 0:05 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-14 2:21 ` Thuna
2024-08-14 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 14:14 ` Thuna
2024-08-14 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 1:05 ` Thuna
2024-08-15 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 15:15 ` Thuna
2024-08-15 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-15 12:38 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-15 15:02 ` Thuna
2024-08-14 9:47 ` Sean Whitton
2024-08-06 15:52 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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