From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Joachim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87hbckn4ph.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> References: <4D493388.2070801@ens2m.fr> <4D4AAEE7.9040509@ens2m.fr> <4D4AF8B2.6090108@ens2m.fr> <83oc6sbyum.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296772837 20261 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2011 22:40:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emmanuel Bigler , 7962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 23:40:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7qi-0005aA-7U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2011 22:08:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7M6-000463-83 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:08:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7M3-00045l-Ad for 7962@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:08:44 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Feb 2011 22:17:11 -0000 Original-Received: from p54861DCA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.29.202] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 03 Feb 2011 23:17:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bGo9EshHbNhK6CXlvSDOYDRG/95I7g8ji86SNuy 6+jWw7hU2L66kc Original-Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D7B033F458; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:17:14 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:39:01 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2.93 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:09:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43897 Archived-At: On 2011-02-03 22:39 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:22 +0100 >>> From: Emmanuel Bigler >>> Cc: >>> >>> However I am reluctant to switch to UTF-8 for all my texts in English, >>> German, French, even Icelandic etc... i.e. Western European languages, >>> the only ones I'll ever typeset, which are perfectly handled in >>> unibyte iso-8859-1. >> >> You seem to assume that going multibyte requires that your files be >> encoded in UTF-8.  That simply isn't true.  The files can continue be >> encoded in ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15; Emacs will decode them into its >> internal representation when you visit the file and encode it back >> when you save it.  You lose nothing. > > But does that require that you mark those files as coded in ISO-8859-1 etc? For reliability, yes. Otherwise Emacs cannot really know the encoding and has to guess if a byte with value 164 means ¤ (ISO-8859-1) or € (ISO-8859-15), for instance. Converting the files to UTF-8 solves this ambiguity, of course. Sven