From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8891: 23.3; save-buffer messages about writing files that may not be written Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:35:11 -0400 Message-ID: <87hb724vts.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309746997 15715 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 02:36:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 02:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dave Abrahams , 8891@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 04:36:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ1T-0003yg-RU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:36:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ1S-0006lM-PE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39825) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ15-0006kZ-Pr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ11-0007su-Dt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58010) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ11-0007sj-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ10-0004gY-BG; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8891.130974692217948 (code B ref 8891); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2011 02:35:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ0L-0004fR-WF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdZ0K-0004fG-EM for 8891@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036225047.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p642ZBG6011996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:35:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:31:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:36:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47913 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Yes... until `save-buffer' calls `basic-save-buffer' which invokes >> `write-file-functions', one of which decides to override the notion of >> "modified-ness" when it ascertains that the contents have not actually >> changed. So modp tells the truth at the time it's checked, but IMO it's >> checked too early. > > Right. So perhaps `basic-save-buffer-2' is the right place to output > the message? I've grepped through the .el files, and there doesn't seem > to be any other callers other than the straight line down from > `save-buffer'. > > Opinions, anybody? I don't think it's worth changing.