From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9084: 24.0.50; displaying man pages splits the window and formats the text for the full width of the whole frame rather than for the width of the window the text is displayed in, which is only 1/2 the width of the frame Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:56:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87hb6jtqua.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <878vs0d10o.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <8762n4e5gy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E1FEC9C.2090102@gmx.at> <87aacerzv3.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87tyalilpf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zkkdouje.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87hb6kcx7z.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311012118 16492 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2011 18:01:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9084@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 18 20:01:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis8g-0003PL-05 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45511 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis8e-0007ZF-NK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis43-0006Kp-K6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:57:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3z-0007zh-1M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:57:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3y-0007zV-Lb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3x-000106-Rv; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: lee Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9084 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9084-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9084.13110118183836 (code B ref 9084); Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2011 17:56:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3t-0000zp-BK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:56:57 -0400 Original-Received: from static.103.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.103] helo=static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3q-0000zb-R8 for 9084@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qis3h-0006qg-V8; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:56:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87hb6kcx7z.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:08:04 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:57:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49415 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > You are asking for functionality that is not specific to > manpages. Typical text width in all buffers that I see is no more than > 75 characters: in Dired buffers, in Info buffers, in source code > buffers, etc. Then the manpages as emacs formats them are an exception to that. > Usually there is no point in making the window wider than the text > displayed in all these buffers. I think the width of the window > and other parameters of window configurations should be specified > at more general level. I agree. Dynamic window layout is one of emacs' strengths, and it would make sense to give users more control over it. That would include functions like `frameify-window-layout' and `frameify-window'. They would make the windows currently displayed, or a particular window, respectively, behave as if these windows were frames. >> When your window is 230 characters wide, you could set Man-width to 70 >> and display three pages side by side? > > There was a plan to implement functionality where you can define > arbitrary window layouts, e.g. you will be able to define a layout > to display three manpage dedicated buffers side by side, etc. Does this plan involve functionality to freeze window layouts or to "frameify" windows? There isn't much point in laying out windows in any particular way when dynamic window layout continues to automatically destroy an overall layout. Users shouldn't be expected to specify window layouts for a potentially huge number of different buffers in order to always dynamically get the overall window layout they want when this can be avoided by something as simple (for the user) as "frameifying" a window.