From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11042: 24.0.94; dangerous org manual: parse-time-months and parse-time-weekdays Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:00:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87haxiuk8t.fsf__7447.95193099907$1332338401$gmane$org@altern.org> References: <86wr6htni5.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1332338401 2446 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2012 14:00:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11042@debbugs.gnu.org To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 21 14:59:58 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SAM4t-0007cq-Qa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:59:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SAM4r-0001Ck-KE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:59:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SAM4h-0000oI-Va for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:59:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SAM4d-0002wA-4h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SAM4P-0002sM-K4; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAMY6-0006fp-Q0; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11042 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11042-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11042.133234020125623 (code B ref 11042); Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11042) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2012 14:30:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAMY3-0006fD-UA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:43355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAMY0-0006f4-Aj for 11042@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:29:58 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0JAN3ZaU+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbABEtW0DgQ+BB4IJAQEEAXkFCwsNFCUPAQQYRBuHagQMuBaCU4hggiyDIgSOAIdfhg+KGIJo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,623,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30104732" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2012 14:59:13 +0100 Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D505E856E; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:00:34 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <86wr6htni5.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 19 Mar 2012 01:58:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:57920 Archived-At: Hi Michael, Michael Heerdegen writes: > The org-mode manual under the node "The date/time prompt" tells: > > "[...] The function understands English month and weekday abbreviations. If > you want to use unabbreviated names and/or other languages, configure > the variables `parse-time-months' and `parse-time-weekdays'." > > It doesn't tell how the user can do that. Even worse, > `parse-time-months' and `parse-time-weekdays' are not defined as user > options and undocumented! > > After reading the above section in the org manual, users may replace > the English names with e.g. German ones in their config. Seems this > is not a good idea, as this user question in gnu.emacs.gnus shows: > > http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.gnus/browse_thread/thread/8dde85b5ff3ab454/a02ddb878bfa1eb9 The thread doesn't tell what is wrong with setting `parse-time-months' and `parse-time-weekdays'. Can you expand a bit more on this? > BTW1: maybe a better solution would be to define own variables for > this purpose in org, instead of letting users change variables in > parse-time.el. Org heavily depends on parse-time.el. Providing a defcustom in Org that is tied to parse-time.el at the same time is not trivial. Thanks, -- Bastien