From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8638: 24.0.50; Imenu should not include vacuous defvars Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:43:16 +0800 Message-ID: <87hasgr8h7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6A3327809B8B440D99CDCDCED77E9575@us.oracle.com> <0D4329D43B42401498128F9B58880C74@us.oracle.com> <87mx295srs.fsf@gnu.org> <0AB1806162D94500957B6BEDDBE585AB@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344224655 13195 80.91.229.3 (6 Aug 2012 03:44:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 03:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8638@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 06 05:44:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEEp-00087D-Dx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:44:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33761 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEEo-0008Sn-Pb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49347) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEEm-0008Si-VM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEEm-0005zp-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55047) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEEm-0005zl-01 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyEMM-0006pO-Ae for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8638 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8638-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8638.134422507426195 (code B ref 8638); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8638) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2012 03:51:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyELa-0006oR-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:50223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyELY-0006oJ-P7 for 8638@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: by pbbrr4 with SMTP id rr4so3278314pbb.3 for <8638@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Lf72lSzy+P0mPN/LvzPo/1cLCe1yBe3EQ/qCuhP3VCw=; b=lJnW/6p/sZOuv1NmtNcEcw/AtkGqUikZ3hFuRS0QzCpeknW3SdGLf6BLYVcJ8sRfqC L1A2AsDgWa7tSGEP6OcNS7oGHsftdqE0DYqL6bgk8F6xV5vYBC+vMcAoOUwBCOUtt9u3 wyTKio8oK8jnmRitbi/NghWs3s6kERPzK7G9QTekXpijmg9UrxWAH7eBnHsPQl8FqphL qSAA9ltQOVKjGYG3ctWy7nL7azR/BDCr1V9k9xHMFIJrRx6w6nldkfNLBJKxGBtieTdS tTHoLeX3iSlElK2boNsigVc1EKQSbPguZFhOGdebZJmRAcWV1g3EZOuSJOlprwr68pmG p+8g== Original-Received: by 10.68.231.10 with SMTP id tc10mr15636474pbc.107.1344224601699; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ulysses ([155.69.19.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vd4sm4589989pbc.41.2012.08.05.20.43.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:43:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0AB1806162D94500957B6BEDDBE585AB@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:27:22 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62858 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > OK, thanks. But I wonder why you treated defvar differently from > defconst, defconstant, defcustom, defparameter, and > define-symbol-macro here. Shouldn't the same thing apply to them? There is no such thing as (defconst foo), or (defcustom foo); the second argument is non-optional. So the reasoning which was used for defvar, i.e. that a defvar with an omitted second arg is commonly used just to silence the compiler, does not apply.