From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:34:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87hamm8qze.fsf__32760.4643338875$1357997735$gmane$org@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87sj68eogm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87wqvjd7qa.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bocvcx9f.fsf__44551.6247455545$1357934081$gmane$org@Rainer.invalid> <87ip72n1v7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357997717 14330 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2013 13:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10125@debbugs.gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 12 14:35:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1FF-0006MG-LH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:35:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39537 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Ez-0008DC-L5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:35:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Eq-0007sU-9Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:35:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Ei-0004Yn-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1EX-0004QI-Vu; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:34:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Ej-0006am-SA; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:35:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10125 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10125-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10125.135799769325325 (code B ref 10125); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10125) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2013 13:34:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56423 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Ea-0006aP-Vq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:56458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1EX-0006aC-Nr for 10125@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:34:51 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id dr13so1243395wgb.25 for <10125@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:34:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=YSJYsbsGSwDkylEYkdfZ9Xdgw0AykOVi7EOXs4cAAcs=; b=LSos24J9fxZN6r38xYMSL9sT+i6KX5Ic+CzHDk7zDXQjvlU+ACJ3BwWiMqeCSS7RD0 6t6raGrQ+NdPbwqFAVwfbNiWAzK7hQc66WIfFYeAYXXCuHyyHZMKFN3r868+8oGAbXyV 9V3S5eEdIrZdSX/RDvRO1zjoi9zTjmQQTeAuUl7NZbC6XlyGAKFn5YC+CG2dx15BEPI/ kW849eLt5s98J4W5S7PjmCu8wRKgrg5kGkn9mfKK3Hw7tXTbt6VHdqekkAafFQWFFDaA pa9Lim1pqBSkMJS0wQAN0SSfoomMMqylYKztcsFRejk1fv9jSTj78tZbqOHcpBUIkclX SzwQ== X-Received: by 10.194.82.168 with SMTP id j8mr126330722wjy.15.1357997671552; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:34:31 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bw9sm3615059wib.5.2013.01.12.05.34.30 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 05:34:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 113371C20555; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:34:29 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87ip72n1v7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:15:40 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69654 Archived-At: Achim Gratz writes: > Achim Gratz writes: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Yes, this subroutine is never directly called from C, so placing an >>> advice should work just fine. I thought coding conventions prevented advising primitives? I does not look clean to advise `require' here, just for Org. > "Check whether a required feature has been shadowed by changing > `load-path' after it has been loaded and reload that feature from > current load-path in this case." I don't understand why we need this. This is at best a workaround to fix dirty installations. I updated Org's installation process yesterday: http://orgmode.org/org.html#Installation I made it clear that the user, if she wants to install Org on top of the pre-bundled version, must choose between on of the three methods. For each method, I explain how to set up the load-path (if needed) and org.el will load the correct org-loaddefs.el, resetting autoloads correctly. In org.el, no Org package is required before org-loaddefs.el is loaded. > This takes care of a situation when Org is activated after some parts of > it have already been loaded (maybe via autoload) and the load-path has > been changed inbetween. I don't see why this should happen. Setting the correct load-paths is the first thing user should do in their .emacs.el. -- Bastien